Catch can for the 3.0
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Well folks,
I had the Provent Catch Can installed and over 5400 miles, it caught 2.60 Ounces of oil. Yep, that is it
Well, any oil taken out of the intake is good right?
The Bad: The Provent and hoses must cause a build up of pressure or the Provent vented under pressure as I had a code P04DB(Crankcase breather system disconnected) set many times and after I cleared it there is now a hard code P04DB set and I not able to remove that yet.
On this 4300 mile trip, Every time I had to mash on the throttle heavily, it set the code. It set many times and I finally gave up resetting it and left the MIL light on as it didnt affect performance on the trip.
Maybe one of the other catch cans would work better? I don't know.
The truck did burn a quart of oil on this trip, time for a oil change.
I'm giving up on this setup.
I had the Provent Catch Can installed and over 5400 miles, it caught 2.60 Ounces of oil. Yep, that is it
Well, any oil taken out of the intake is good right?
The Bad: The Provent and hoses must cause a build up of pressure or the Provent vented under pressure as I had a code P04DB(Crankcase breather system disconnected) set many times and after I cleared it there is now a hard code P04DB set and I not able to remove that yet.
On this 4300 mile trip, Every time I had to mash on the throttle heavily, it set the code. It set many times and I finally gave up resetting it and left the MIL light on as it didnt affect performance on the trip.
Maybe one of the other catch cans would work better? I don't know.
The truck did burn a quart of oil on this trip, time for a oil change.
I'm giving up on this setup.
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Thanks for the update and symptoms.
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Was it burning oil before the catch can install?
Anyone have any new info on catch cans for the 3.0?
I emailed J&L to ask if any of their kits would work, they replied:
"Hey ____,
Thanks for reaching out. Diesels have much higher cylinder pressures and you have to be really careful you don't restrict the PCV system on them too much or else you'll cause all kinds of other issues. Because of this, we do not make any products for diesels. Sorry we couldn't be more help.
Shane Osborn
J&L Oil Separator Co.
757-842-6497 x106
1008 Executive Blvd
Chesapeake, VA 23320
www.JLOSC.com"
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MightyMouse also emailed me back recently when i inquired about their offerings. Their first reply was that they thought their duramax 2.8 kit would work, I replied back that i sensed hesitancy (see below).....
"I cannot confirm fit until I have one in the shop here for an install, or have someone willing to test fit remotely. Anyone in central VA on your forums can come in and get the installation for free. (free labor, not parts).
The function of the can however, is not part of the question, as normal operation is transparent to the computer system in every application (so far) in about 20,000 shipments."
On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 2:57 PM ______ wrote:
Thanks for the prompt response. I’m most concerned about vacuum pressure decreases to the system if the hoses are too small of diameter and/or too long and contribute to pressure decreases that the ECU wont compensate for. Am I out in left field on this thought?
There’s a ton of guys on FB forums interested in catch cans for our 3.0L. I’ve recently peaked their interests with several posts. Your company might want to get ahead of the curve and openly acknowledge if not confirm the 2.8 works flawlessly for the 3.0. I sense hesitancy in your response, as well, I don’t want to be your guinea pig on this. LOL
Would love to work with you on this and be able to recommend your kit, but would like to sense more confidence from you that this will in fact work flawlessly. Makes sense? Due diligence on both our parts, yes?"
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Would love to hear from anyone that has learned anything worth sharing about catch cans for our engines. Thanks in advance!
I emailed J&L to ask if any of their kits would work, they replied:
"Hey ____,
Thanks for reaching out. Diesels have much higher cylinder pressures and you have to be really careful you don't restrict the PCV system on them too much or else you'll cause all kinds of other issues. Because of this, we do not make any products for diesels. Sorry we couldn't be more help.
Shane Osborn
J&L Oil Separator Co.
757-842-6497 x106
1008 Executive Blvd
Chesapeake, VA 23320
www.JLOSC.com"
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MightyMouse also emailed me back recently when i inquired about their offerings. Their first reply was that they thought their duramax 2.8 kit would work, I replied back that i sensed hesitancy (see below).....
"I cannot confirm fit until I have one in the shop here for an install, or have someone willing to test fit remotely. Anyone in central VA on your forums can come in and get the installation for free. (free labor, not parts).
The function of the can however, is not part of the question, as normal operation is transparent to the computer system in every application (so far) in about 20,000 shipments."
On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 2:57 PM ______ wrote:
Thanks for the prompt response. I’m most concerned about vacuum pressure decreases to the system if the hoses are too small of diameter and/or too long and contribute to pressure decreases that the ECU wont compensate for. Am I out in left field on this thought?
There’s a ton of guys on FB forums interested in catch cans for our 3.0L. I’ve recently peaked their interests with several posts. Your company might want to get ahead of the curve and openly acknowledge if not confirm the 2.8 works flawlessly for the 3.0. I sense hesitancy in your response, as well, I don’t want to be your guinea pig on this. LOL
Would love to work with you on this and be able to recommend your kit, but would like to sense more confidence from you that this will in fact work flawlessly. Makes sense? Due diligence on both our parts, yes?"
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Would love to hear from anyone that has learned anything worth sharing about catch cans for our engines. Thanks in advance!
You have to be really careful with catch cans in sub zero temps, they can really cause a lot of issues/problems and really have to be engineered right for those conditions.
I have not seen any good ones at the moment, but we are all here to learn so maybe someone else has.
I have not seen any good ones at the moment, but we are all here to learn so maybe someone else has.
Yea, I’ve seen both. I’m liking the VSE one better personally, especially for us in cold climates. I don’t like the fine mesh personally (too much possible restriction and possible freeze up due to small mesh). The VSE’s is also all machined out of billet aluminum, hence the $349 price.
Now that the ‘pre-order’ is complete… they are now $399. Nice
I saw that. Figures….
I think I’m going to order one this week.
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I haven't heard if the PPE can is available or not yet. You could try their webpage.
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I installed the new VSE oil catch can this afternoon. (theres a good video in the attached VSE web site link and another good one on DemonWorks youtube channel)
I only have 29 miles on the vehicle since I bought it back in Dec. 2023. I don't drive my good vehicles it in the winter (because of all the salt) and I wanted to wait until this catch can became available, so I just left it parked.
The VSE can is a bit more difficult to install than what you see in the videos, but definitely doable. I had to use a regular spiral clamp on the curved hose instead of the spring clamp thats in the kit. (I wasted the $$ for that special clamp tool that is recommended and found it to be nearly useless.) There just wasn't a good way to get to the spring clamp on the curved hose, the space is very limited! I was able to use the OEM spring clamp as well as two of the three that came in the kit for three of the four connections.
If you do purchase a VSE catch can, be super careful getting the can into position. It is a really tight fit and you don't want to disturb the heater hose coupling any more than you absolutely have to. I hear that they can break fairly easily. ALSO....stuff a towel under the can BEFORE you try to thread the nut onto the mounting bolt. If you drop it, good luck finding it. (I never did find it, even after dropping the skid plate) I picked up a new nut at the hardware store, stuffed an old fluffy towel under the can, wrapped a piece of duct tape around my finger (sticky side out) then pressed the nut firmly into the glue on the tape to keep from dropping it again. I left the bolt loose enough so I could turn it and catch the threads on the nut.
I installed a Racor crank case ventilation system on my 2000 Powerstoke shortly after I bought it. 24 years later, the inlet to the turbo and all the piping, hoses and connections were 100% oil free. I am hoping that the VSE oil catch can will do as good a job as the Racor system did. Time will tell.
As an added bonus, I also got the Banks iDash gauge installed on the A pillar grab handle. The Banks gauge pod looks fantastic. The paint for the pod that is available from Banks, matches the interior color perfectly (after I got the paint manufacturer's info and part number from Banks web site, I ordered a can of it through walmart for half the price).
I only have 29 miles on the vehicle since I bought it back in Dec. 2023. I don't drive my good vehicles it in the winter (because of all the salt) and I wanted to wait until this catch can became available, so I just left it parked.
The VSE can is a bit more difficult to install than what you see in the videos, but definitely doable. I had to use a regular spiral clamp on the curved hose instead of the spring clamp thats in the kit. (I wasted the $$ for that special clamp tool that is recommended and found it to be nearly useless.) There just wasn't a good way to get to the spring clamp on the curved hose, the space is very limited! I was able to use the OEM spring clamp as well as two of the three that came in the kit for three of the four connections.
If you do purchase a VSE catch can, be super careful getting the can into position. It is a really tight fit and you don't want to disturb the heater hose coupling any more than you absolutely have to. I hear that they can break fairly easily. ALSO....stuff a towel under the can BEFORE you try to thread the nut onto the mounting bolt. If you drop it, good luck finding it. (I never did find it, even after dropping the skid plate) I picked up a new nut at the hardware store, stuffed an old fluffy towel under the can, wrapped a piece of duct tape around my finger (sticky side out) then pressed the nut firmly into the glue on the tape to keep from dropping it again. I left the bolt loose enough so I could turn it and catch the threads on the nut.
I installed a Racor crank case ventilation system on my 2000 Powerstoke shortly after I bought it. 24 years later, the inlet to the turbo and all the piping, hoses and connections were 100% oil free. I am hoping that the VSE oil catch can will do as good a job as the Racor system did. Time will tell.
As an added bonus, I also got the Banks iDash gauge installed on the A pillar grab handle. The Banks gauge pod looks fantastic. The paint for the pod that is available from Banks, matches the interior color perfectly (after I got the paint manufacturer's info and part number from Banks web site, I ordered a can of it through walmart for half the price).
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Thanks for the update, I have been considering buying the VSE, please keep us updated with your results. Very good post
Thanks Scott